But by NOT fulfilling the very expectations that you encouraged, you damaged your own reputation (which to this point has been very positive for me) and proven yourselves to be untrustworthy. The iPad has become the apple of your eye even though it has a far, far fewer customer base than the iPhone.īy asking the original question and getting an overwhelmingly positive response from long-time users, Omni encouraged and set the expectation of something to come.and so we waited and waited and waited. OO for the iPhone appears to be nothing more than a vapor-app. I was the very first person to respond to this thread back on 1.1.09 - over 16 months ago.and have waited patiently ever since.īut now I must be honest and say that I am VERY disappointed in Omni because nothing has happened yet for OO and the iPhone.
I have been a LONG time customer of The Omni Group products - for both the mac and iPhone.
The iPad truly is a game changer in many respects (for those who GET IT), so ensuring that their apps work seamlessly between Mac OS X and iOS (an end-to-end solution) is in everyone's best interest. database-centric apps (OF), so the doc-centric OmniOutliner should be less painful to build for the iPad/iPhone.įor Omni, I think it's important that they build their apps for BOTH the iPhone/iPod touch and iPad. Luckily it looks as though Apple has found a reasonable, if clunky, solution for syncing document-centric apps (iWork) vs. OmniFocus on the Mac DOES need a lot of GUI tuning, so hopefully they're hard at work on that as well. I hope Omni IS focussing on the iPad AND churning out all the apps they've listed (OmniFocus being first in line after OmniGraffle).
Unless something is capable of syncing between all my devices, I won't use it. It syncs between my Mac, iPod touch and iPad, so at least I needn't jump through hoops or use some awful "cloud" app. OmniFocus is a quite workable, not perfect but workable solution as an outliner for now. I respect the decision to focus on the iPad, but the phone is really my mobile device where I need a simple way to collect data and arrange them swiftly. Hope someone in Omni not to busy with the iPad is still subscribing to this. Sync on desktop could be something you set for each file/document. Yes, a simple outliner for the iphone would be fantastic! I can see that this thread has been spun for more than a year, but it should not end up with a Taskpaper recommendation: Not quite as good as Bonsai or Ecco Pro, but what can you do.
* How to PASTE items to OF and have it turn into tasks on the fly * How to COLLAPSE a GRAPHIC (attached link to file)
Here's a sample of my notes from my Software outline, this being part of what I track and document re OmniOutliner: I use OO religiously for work-much better than my IT's firms KB. I only wish that OG had ported OO to the web and/or the iPhone and/or added aliasing a long time ago.
There is NOTHING like a flexible, hierarchical outliner. OmniOutliner is the best replacement I've found so far.
Ecco Pro was so incredible that it had aliasing (cloned items that were exact pointers, much like DEVONthink's "replicated" items, which are exact clones directly linked).įor years and years, Bonsai, made by Natara, was my workhorse, running on my Toshiba tablet and synced to my Palm. I have used PIMs (personal information managers) since the beautiful, ground-breaking, never-to-be topped, Ecco Pro, only to be seconded by InfoSelect or Bonsai.
While I appreciate it as an outliner, I haven't been able to really break away from using Word.
In addition, I would like to be able to have more than one - I'd be interested in hearing all the things you do with OO every day. I would want to be able to sync with or transfer to and from my desktop computer without going through email or through a third party website (even Omni's). I want to be able to create a hierarchical outline on my iPod Touch.ĥ. I would definitely want editing capabilities. Plain text is fine for me formatting ability would be a nice to have.Ĥ. I would like to have multiple columns, different column types, and summary rows.Ģ. 1) Do you need multiple columns of data, column types, or the column summary options?Ģ) Do you need formatting support? Or just plain text like OmniFocus for the iPhone.Ĥ) Should it be a viewer only, or have editing capabilities? If just a viewer only, how well does the Quick Look preview/DHTML export meet your needs? (Viewing the export on the iPhone that is)ĥ) What kind of syncing expectations do you have? This would be one big reason why OmniOutliner 4 needs to be developed first as OO3 is not designed for merging synced changes.ġ.